Comments on: Where Do I Fit On Other People’s Learning Network? http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/ Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:04:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: XplanaZine http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-165 XplanaZine Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:18:34 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-165 <strong>Lone Star Learning -- Seeing Things Differently...</strong> Knowing that the real secret to understanding is gaining new perspective -- is seeing things differently -- I start wondering about what else I should be mapping. I look at Cab Spotting and visualized learning networks and I ask myself what other invis... Lone Star Learning — Seeing Things Differently…

Knowing that the real secret to understanding is gaining new perspective — is seeing things differently — I start wondering about what else I should be mapping. I look at Cab Spotting and visualized learning networks and I ask myself what other invis…

]]> By: XplanaRadio http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-164 XplanaRadio Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:32:30 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-164 <strong>Seeing Things Differently...</strong>   We've all had those experiences where we were seeing a map of something familiar, but it was being shown in a way that made it unfamiliar. I remember seeing my first aerial map of some acreage my father...... Seeing Things Differently…

  We’ve all had those experiences where we were seeing a map of something familiar, but it was being shown in a way that made it unfamiliar. I remember seeing my first aerial map of some acreage my father……

]]> By: Leigh Blackall http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Leigh Blackall Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:53:24 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-160 Thanks Graham, the beauty of your blogging software is the little check box I can tick to be sent an email update of comments in a post I've contributed to. I wish Blogger would add such a feature :( Thanks for the insight. I agree, it is the word "network" that needs to be released from the confines of IT discourse. Perhaps there is another word around.. connectivism is one, but for me its too broad. Isn't my ability to look up a mechanic in the yellow pages and give him a call to ask his advice - connectivism? I think it is. But for me, there is something more about "Networked Learning", and it may just be the recorded a synchronous elements to this form of communication. I think the idea behind connectivism is meant to represent the idea of Internetworked people communicating, but the name and explination strikes me as too broard.. Tony Forster's comment is also very valuable. At time I have also wondered about the fact that I am surrounding myself with people who agree with me... but as he points out, that doesn't have to be a bad thing, especially when we work together to be very productive on things. Lord knows, in the real f2f world, I get enough counter views to balance my online views! Thanks guys. Thanks Graham, the beauty of your blogging software is the little check box I can tick to be sent an email update of comments in a post I’ve contributed to. I wish Blogger would add such a feature :(

Thanks for the insight. I agree, it is the word “network” that needs to be released from the confines of IT discourse. Perhaps there is another word around.. connectivism is one, but for me its too broad. Isn’t my ability to look up a mechanic in the yellow pages and give him a call to ask his advice – connectivism? I think it is. But for me, there is something more about “Networked Learning”, and it may just be the recorded a synchronous elements to this form of communication. I think the idea behind connectivism is meant to represent the idea of Internetworked people communicating, but the name and explination strikes me as too broard..

Tony Forster’s comment is also very valuable. At time I have also wondered about the fact that I am surrounding myself with people who agree with me… but as he points out, that doesn’t have to be a bad thing, especially when we work together to be very productive on things. Lord knows, in the real f2f world, I get enough counter views to balance my online views!

Thanks guys.

]]> By: Graham http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-159 Graham Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:46:45 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-159 Leigh, I think my initial difficulties in understanding the concept of Networked Learning stemmed from my interpretation of what a network was. When I first started reading blogs, one of the first posts I read from you was on the topic of Networked Learning. In the first few months of getting into blogging I was pretty wide eyed and everyone I started reading seemed to be an expert (Will Richardson, David Warlick, Steve Dembo) and so I actually thought the NL concept to be beyond my level of understanding. So for a while I didn't try to go any further - just treated like the word in a story you encounter for the first time. You can skip it and the story still manages to make sense. I just thought in the context of everything else you wrote that NL was a close cousin of online learning and that networked referred to computer networks and the internet. I didn't really appreciate the concept in terms of a personal learning network until I saw the touchgraph. The learning you referred to I think I confused with content originally because that's what I started imagining the network being used to access. Looking at the definition now, it seems a lot clearer and maybe what a lot of people do is look for a complex definition for an idea that isn't that complicated and that anyone accessing anyone else in electronic form is probably involved to some depth in Networked Learning. I have to admit, some of this is my own laziness - I haven't dug much around to really immerse myself in the concept. So don't fret (except if you read this and think, oh no, he really doesn't have a clue!!) your concept is clear, the touch graph adds a new dimension of illustrating it but as Alex Hayes points out in your comments, a visual representation cannot show the varying depth behind all of the networked links - the fact that I might get a lot more in terms of learning from a Doug Noon or an Artichoke with deep, thought provoking insight that makes me re-examine what I do to a shallower source (I won't name one here!) where I might just find out about a new online app or a new service or what happened in a podcast get together. Hope this helps. I will cross post this to your blog in case you don't regularly re-visit other blog's comments. Leigh, I think my initial difficulties in understanding the concept of Networked Learning stemmed from my interpretation of what a network was. When I first started reading blogs, one of the first posts I read from you was on the topic of Networked Learning. In the first few months of getting into blogging I was pretty wide eyed and everyone I started reading seemed to be an expert (Will Richardson, David Warlick, Steve Dembo) and so I actually thought the NL concept to be beyond my level of understanding. So for a while I didn’t try to go any further – just treated like the word in a story you encounter for the first time. You can skip it and the story still manages to make sense. I just thought in the context of everything else you wrote that NL was a close cousin of online learning and that networked referred to computer networks and the internet. I didn’t really appreciate the concept in terms of a personal learning network until I saw the touchgraph. The learning you referred to I think I confused with content originally because that’s what I started imagining the network being used to access. Looking at the definition now, it seems a lot clearer and maybe what a lot of people do is look for a complex definition for an idea that isn’t that complicated and that anyone accessing anyone else in electronic form is probably involved to some depth in Networked Learning. I have to admit, some of this is my own laziness – I haven’t dug much around to really immerse myself in the concept. So don’t fret (except if you read this and think, oh no, he really doesn’t have a clue!!) your concept is clear, the touch graph adds a new dimension of illustrating it but as Alex Hayes points out in your comments, a visual representation cannot show the varying depth behind all of the networked links – the fact that I might get a lot more in terms of learning from a Doug Noon or an Artichoke with deep, thought provoking insight that makes me re-examine what I do to a shallower source (I won’t name one here!) where I might just find out about a new online app or a new service or what happened in a podcast get together.
Hope this helps. I will cross post this to your blog in case you don’t regularly re-visit other blog’s comments.

]]> By: Tony Forster http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-158 Tony Forster Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:11:14 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-158 "Never have so many people written so much to be read by so few..." Katie Hafner NY Times I started as a skeptic towards blogs... The seductiveness of selecting a dozen or so people from a world of 5,000,000,000 on the basis that that they agree with me and then believing that I was an instrument of change as we all congratulate ourselves on how smart we are. Now I'm thinking that it doesnt matter so much how few are reading this stuff because I can see the power of the intellectual networks created and the ability to work collaboratively on a body of knowlege “Never have so many people written so much to be read by so few…” Katie Hafner NY Times

I started as a skeptic towards blogs… The seductiveness of selecting a dozen or so people from a world of 5,000,000,000 on the basis that that they agree with me and then believing that I was an instrument of change as we all congratulate ourselves on how smart we are.

Now I’m thinking that it doesnt matter so much how few are reading this stuff because I can see the power of the intellectual networks created and the ability to work collaboratively on a body of knowlege

]]> By: Leigh Blackall http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Leigh Blackall Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:25:49 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/07/where-do-i-fit-on-other-peoples-learning-network/#comment-157 Hi there G. You know, while its still fresh in your mind, I'd like to know what was it about previous descriptions of networked learning that prevented understanding? I have a lot of trouble explaining it to many people to the point where I begin to doubt the idea, so I could really use your insights at this point? <a href="http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=33993" rel="nofollow">Stephen Downes has made a brief but valuable re-entry with a recording of a talk that goes into some detail about learning networks</a>... Hi there G.
You know, while its still fresh in your mind, I’d like to know what was it about previous descriptions of networked learning that prevented understanding? I have a lot of trouble explaining it to many people to the point where I begin to doubt the idea, so I could really use your insights at this point? Stephen Downes has made a brief but valuable re-entry with a recording of a talk that goes into some detail about learning networks…

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