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	<title>Comments on: Portfolios &#8211; To E Or Not To E!</title>
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		<title>By: Leigh Blackall</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/04/22/portfolios-to-e-or-not-to-e/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t fantastic to see our conversation continuing on in so many arenas!? My blog, your blog, Alex&#039;s blog, TALO eGroup, lord know where else! And I certainly look forward to a voice to voice go at it this Thursday.

Thanks so much everyone, its been thoroughly electrifying.. now all we need is that tool Alex calls for that can bring it all together for us again in a few years time. I wonder if this exchange has altered the Google search results for the words ePortfolio, Leigh Blackall, Graham Wegner, Alex Hayes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t fantastic to see our conversation continuing on in so many arenas!? My blog, your blog, Alex&#8217;s blog, TALO eGroup, lord know where else! And I certainly look forward to a voice to voice go at it this Thursday.</p>
<p>Thanks so much everyone, its been thoroughly electrifying.. now all we need is that tool Alex calls for that can bring it all together for us again in a few years time. I wonder if this exchange has altered the Google search results for the words ePortfolio, Leigh Blackall, Graham Wegner, Alex Hayes?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Graham and I&#039;m now about to set off into the week and explore blogging with a whole bunch of educators that are likely to say &quot;blog ?&quot;

I&#039;m finding it so important to realise where your coming from, where your headed and I tend to think that your &#039;primary teacher&#039; bit does actually give you credibility. My CV dosent show how many houses I renovated or how many ditches I dug.

That portfolio of evidence is best tested on a hot day, in the scrub finiching with a cold ale or two. 

Where teachers and educators are at these days with e-portfolios is also one of my primary and daily interrogations. I suspect that some teachers are requesting students to ease up on the laughter and give them a chance to catch up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Graham and I&#8217;m now about to set off into the week and explore blogging with a whole bunch of educators that are likely to say &#8220;blog ?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m finding it so important to realise where your coming from, where your headed and I tend to think that your &#8216;primary teacher&#8217; bit does actually give you credibility. My CV dosent show how many houses I renovated or how many ditches I dug.</p>
<p>That portfolio of evidence is best tested on a hot day, in the scrub finiching with a cold ale or two. </p>
<p>Where teachers and educators are at these days with e-portfolios is also one of my primary and daily interrogations. I suspect that some teachers are requesting students to ease up on the laughter and give them a chance to catch up.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nick and RC for your comments. Alex, your response has a lot more detail and I can&#039;t disagree with anything that you have said, especially with the fact that e-Portfolio is a term that belongs to the current generation of educators (well, some of them!)My headset is still at what this means for teachers - the students will define their purposes in their future and don&#039;t need us imposing any model on them. I&#039;m no expert on moblile learning but students now and from now on will want to be linked up in the way that is convenient to them. Anything hosted solely on a department or school server does not have the portability any future portfolio will need. It might still be OK for a lot of tech-afraid teachers who might not even want to know about emerging technologies unless there are a few traditonal type safeguards for privacy, etc. I just think that more educators need to come on board with the capabilities of information manipulation and utilisation as enabled by blogs, wikis, web apps etc.. If they see a purpose for themselves (i.e. maintaining their own e-Portfolio) then they may unshackle their students and allow them the opportunity to find out what works for them. Having said that, there is the reality that a lot (not all) of the teaching force wouldn&#039;t see the value in any form of online presence - they have a job for life, the educaion system itself has the speed of a glacier - so I could be wasting a lot of time debating about something that no-one wants to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick and RC for your comments. Alex, your response has a lot more detail and I can&#8217;t disagree with anything that you have said, especially with the fact that e-Portfolio is a term that belongs to the current generation of educators (well, some of them!)My headset is still at what this means for teachers &#8211; the students will define their purposes in their future and don&#8217;t need us imposing any model on them. I&#8217;m no expert on moblile learning but students now and from now on will want to be linked up in the way that is convenient to them. Anything hosted solely on a department or school server does not have the portability any future portfolio will need. It might still be OK for a lot of tech-afraid teachers who might not even want to know about emerging technologies unless there are a few traditonal type safeguards for privacy, etc. I just think that more educators need to come on board with the capabilities of information manipulation and utilisation as enabled by blogs, wikis, web apps etc.. If they see a purpose for themselves (i.e. maintaining their own e-Portfolio) then they may unshackle their students and allow them the opportunity to find out what works for them. Having said that, there is the reality that a lot (not all) of the teaching force wouldn&#8217;t see the value in any form of online presence &#8211; they have a job for life, the educaion system itself has the speed of a glacier &#8211; so I could be wasting a lot of time debating about something that no-one wants to do!</p>
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		<title>By: rc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buddy, you&#039;re a committed, thoughtful, insightful dude, with a job that intersects  youth, learning, and technology. 

forget the quals, drop the i&#039;m just a primary teacher thing - you&#039;re where its at</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buddy, you&#8217;re a committed, thoughtful, insightful dude, with a job that intersects  youth, learning, and technology. </p>
<p>forget the quals, drop the i&#8217;m just a primary teacher thing &#8211; you&#8217;re where its at</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, indeed you warrant a response. 

I&#039;ve cruised your musings for a while now and it&#039;s a pleasure to figure in your prose.

Onto e-portfolios.

Leigh dropped into The Centre For Learning Innovations TAFE NSW a while back [ http://moblog.co.uk/view.php?id=123451 ] and sprung a bombshell on the least suspecting.

Patch this audio into your mental picture of a boardroom filled with senior educationalisms.

&quot; Portability and access are the only elements of e-portfolios that make sense to a student. Construction of such [ e ] is non-chronological, re-hashed and re-worked as many times as it takes to make it true in any given moment and as needed &quot; 

&quot; Mlearning is anything , anywhere, anytime.....provided I&#039;m given permission to access it. Staistics say otherwise.&quot;

&quot; I disagree with you...not because I have to but because my students prove that I need to do so&quot;

Given that these are re-collections of a heated discussion and are renditions and trackbacks to whats been coined as sleight-of-mouth or stream of conciousness from Leigh Blackall ( I&#039;ve got the tapes to prove it ) I&#039;m now firmly of the opinion that e-portfoloio&#039;s have resonance when considered as a verb.

E-portfolability.

&quot;Small pieces, loosely joined&quot;  rings true. Leigh&#039;s game is no name fame. It&#039;s heartfelt and horribly real.

I&#039;m personally finding snippets of memory tucked away in the crinkly concoids of the machine [www] far more maleable than the letters after my name.

What make it all real is coming to the conclusion that power genre&#039;s are fast flailing and failing. 

Students need to take memory of learning with them, not wrapped up in someone elses slick &#039;certificate&#039; that tells them what made the outcomes tick. The aggregation and distribution of this portfolio should be ( in my humble opinion )  a students choice - blog, wiki, moblog, youtube, myspace, flickrsticker you name it.

It&#039;s not something you can wave in the air in a thumbdrive or tuck under your arm and complement the spit that shines your shoe in an interview.

E&#039;s are back with the birds and the bees. Lets avoid making wiki&#039;s wack.

All anyone&#039;s asking students these days is their cell number - inside and outside. I&#039;m all for e-portfolios provided we acknowledge it&#039;s &quot;our&quot; term not theirs.

Cheers...for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, indeed you warrant a response. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve cruised your musings for a while now and it&#8217;s a pleasure to figure in your prose.</p>
<p>Onto e-portfolios.</p>
<p>Leigh dropped into The Centre For Learning Innovations TAFE NSW a while back [ <a href="http://moblog.co.uk/view.php?id=123451" rel="nofollow">http://moblog.co.uk/view.php?id=123451</a> ] and sprung a bombshell on the least suspecting.</p>
<p>Patch this audio into your mental picture of a boardroom filled with senior educationalisms.</p>
<p>&#8221; Portability and access are the only elements of e-portfolios that make sense to a student. Construction of such [ e ] is non-chronological, re-hashed and re-worked as many times as it takes to make it true in any given moment and as needed &#8221; </p>
<p>&#8221; Mlearning is anything , anywhere, anytime&#8230;..provided I&#8217;m given permission to access it. Staistics say otherwise.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8221; I disagree with you&#8230;not because I have to but because my students prove that I need to do so&#8221;</p>
<p>Given that these are re-collections of a heated discussion and are renditions and trackbacks to whats been coined as sleight-of-mouth or stream of conciousness from Leigh Blackall ( I&#8217;ve got the tapes to prove it ) I&#8217;m now firmly of the opinion that e-portfoloio&#8217;s have resonance when considered as a verb.</p>
<p>E-portfolability.</p>
<p>&#8220;Small pieces, loosely joined&#8221;  rings true. Leigh&#8217;s game is no name fame. It&#8217;s heartfelt and horribly real.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally finding snippets of memory tucked away in the crinkly concoids of the machine [www] far more maleable than the letters after my name.</p>
<p>What make it all real is coming to the conclusion that power genre&#8217;s are fast flailing and failing. </p>
<p>Students need to take memory of learning with them, not wrapped up in someone elses slick &#8216;certificate&#8217; that tells them what made the outcomes tick. The aggregation and distribution of this portfolio should be ( in my humble opinion )  a students choice &#8211; blog, wiki, moblog, youtube, myspace, flickrsticker you name it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not something you can wave in the air in a thumbdrive or tuck under your arm and complement the spit that shines your shoe in an interview.</p>
<p>E&#8217;s are back with the birds and the bees. Lets avoid making wiki&#8217;s wack.</p>
<p>All anyone&#8217;s asking students these days is their cell number &#8211; inside and outside. I&#8217;m all for e-portfolios provided we acknowledge it&#8217;s &#8220;our&#8221; term not theirs.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8230;for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Noakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Noakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham

Maybe you, Leigh, Alex and I got keep this ball rolling in the TALO meeting next Thu?

I designed and had built a personal development planning (UK) /eportfolio (North America) system in 2001. I have since abandoned it for a number of reasons - partly to do with other apps coming on stream... but then the current web 2.0 apps don&#039;t do part of what I designed. I think a key point here though is to talk about purposes first ... and purposes vary with stakeholders. I am still convinced about the need for SOME of the purposes behind this, but maybe in part what troubles Leigh is that instituional systems probably get accountability/assessment driven, even if that wasn&#039;t the original purpose of the designer.

I would very enjoy revisting this with you all on Thu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham</p>
<p>Maybe you, Leigh, Alex and I got keep this ball rolling in the TALO meeting next Thu?</p>
<p>I designed and had built a personal development planning (UK) /eportfolio (North America) system in 2001. I have since abandoned it for a number of reasons &#8211; partly to do with other apps coming on stream&#8230; but then the current web 2.0 apps don&#8217;t do part of what I designed. I think a key point here though is to talk about purposes first &#8230; and purposes vary with stakeholders. I am still convinced about the need for SOME of the purposes behind this, but maybe in part what troubles Leigh is that instituional systems probably get accountability/assessment driven, even if that wasn&#8217;t the original purpose of the designer.</p>
<p>I would very enjoy revisting this with you all on Thu.</p>
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