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		<title>By: Barbara Ganley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Ganley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graham,

I&#039;m glad that James pointed you out during today&#039;s Masterclass and that you asked the question about teachers needing to blog, to understand blogging before they go about putting blogs into their classrooms.  And I know that my fuzzy-five-a.m. head didn&#039;t answer you very well.  So now that it&#039;s 12 hours later, I&#039;ll try again.

I agree.  Absolutely.  In principle.  But I also think that it is okay for a teacher to blog &lt;i&gt;alongside the students&lt;/i&gt; for a while, in a pilot project sort of way to try things out within the group situation before winging off onto his/her own blog--as long as the teacher is blogging in some way with the group, as long as the teacher is reading blogs and thinking about them. But you&#039;re right, it is much better if the teacher has been trying out the feel of blogging before she pulls them into the classroom.

I actually didn&#039;t fire up my own professional blog, bgblogging, until the spring of 2004, and yet I had started blogging with and in my classes in the fall of 2001 by keeping a side-blog related directly to the course only, called bgdaily or bgnotes.  And yes, I stumbled a few times along the way because I hadn&#039;t embraced my own &quot;real&quot; blogging practice first.  But I learned a whole lot from those mistakes, and I think I came to bgblogging when I was really ready to say something, to try to contribute to the wider conversation, and when my students asked me why I didn&#039;t keep my own blog.  Duh.  I&#039;m a real example, I guess, of &quot;do what I say and not what I do&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graham,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that James pointed you out during today&#8217;s Masterclass and that you asked the question about teachers needing to blog, to understand blogging before they go about putting blogs into their classrooms.  And I know that my fuzzy-five-a.m. head didn&#8217;t answer you very well.  So now that it&#8217;s 12 hours later, I&#8217;ll try again.</p>
<p>I agree.  Absolutely.  In principle.  But I also think that it is okay for a teacher to blog <i>alongside the students</i> for a while, in a pilot project sort of way to try things out within the group situation before winging off onto his/her own blog&#8211;as long as the teacher is blogging in some way with the group, as long as the teacher is reading blogs and thinking about them. But you&#8217;re right, it is much better if the teacher has been trying out the feel of blogging before she pulls them into the classroom.</p>
<p>I actually didn&#8217;t fire up my own professional blog, bgblogging, until the spring of 2004, and yet I had started blogging with and in my classes in the fall of 2001 by keeping a side-blog related directly to the course only, called bgdaily or bgnotes.  And yes, I stumbled a few times along the way because I hadn&#8217;t embraced my own &#8220;real&#8221; blogging practice first.  But I learned a whole lot from those mistakes, and I think I came to bgblogging when I was really ready to say something, to try to contribute to the wider conversation, and when my students asked me why I didn&#8217;t keep my own blog.  Duh.  I&#8217;m a real example, I guess, of &#8220;do what I say and not what I do&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graham 
If only there was more time to keep up with blog stuff - reading &amp; writing! I really value blogging for my professional learning - through reflection &amp; sharing with others. I value it so much that i made it one of my professional learning goals in my annual performance appraisal - once i had explained to my boss what blogging was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graham<br />
If only there was more time to keep up with blog stuff &#8211; reading &amp; writing! I really value blogging for my professional learning &#8211; through reflection &amp; sharing with others. I value it so much that i made it one of my professional learning goals in my annual performance appraisal &#8211; once i had explained to my boss what blogging was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Upton</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/05/31/blog-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Upton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Greg. There is a lot of value and power (empowerment) with the use of cluster maps. You give some good examples where additional information/evidence supports the use of them as a valuable tool. Often they could just indicate someone dropping in (deliberately or accidently) which, of course, is also part of the power of blogging. The awreness of and ability to track your audience is important.

I still am raising questions re the predominance of &#039;Add a comment&#039;, &#039;Be the first&#039; and &#039;Comments (0)&#039; at the end of so many posts. Should it even be a concern that so many blogs aren&#039;t attracting comments? Perhaps it&#039;s enough to accept that blogs (and individual posts therin) serve a variety of purposes. Some seek/&#039;require&#039; response and dialogue. Others are a record or reflection. More still are multifaceted etc

BTW good comments re IWBs. I&#039;m not agin them. I think they are part of the process as we move toward personalised interactive and individual tools for each student. For the analogy I could just as easily have used data projectors. I encourage educators to get blogs in the class and computer rooms (and as part of teacher good practice) asap seeking their potential as a learning and communcation tool in a variety of ways NOW. This of course includes and supports Graham&#039;s comments re reading other blogs, investing time, developing skills, networking, thinking/acting globally etc    Cheers, Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Greg. There is a lot of value and power (empowerment) with the use of cluster maps. You give some good examples where additional information/evidence supports the use of them as a valuable tool. Often they could just indicate someone dropping in (deliberately or accidently) which, of course, is also part of the power of blogging. The awreness of and ability to track your audience is important.</p>
<p>I still am raising questions re the predominance of &#8216;Add a comment&#8217;, &#8216;Be the first&#8217; and &#8216;Comments (0)&#8217; at the end of so many posts. Should it even be a concern that so many blogs aren&#8217;t attracting comments? Perhaps it&#8217;s enough to accept that blogs (and individual posts therin) serve a variety of purposes. Some seek/&#8217;require&#8217; response and dialogue. Others are a record or reflection. More still are multifaceted etc</p>
<p>BTW good comments re IWBs. I&#8217;m not agin them. I think they are part of the process as we move toward personalised interactive and individual tools for each student. For the analogy I could just as easily have used data projectors. I encourage educators to get blogs in the class and computer rooms (and as part of teacher good practice) asap seeking their potential as a learning and communcation tool in a variety of ways NOW. This of course includes and supports Graham&#8217;s comments re reading other blogs, investing time, developing skills, networking, thinking/acting globally etc    Cheers, Al</p>
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		<title>By: greg carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again....
I don&#039;t see the the clustr maps so much as a gimic as a tool for tracking audience.  A good way to get a feel for who is interested and out there, and particularly interested enough to come back.  I know for our kids at school the power of them came from seeing that there genuinely is an audience and that some of them know who a particular dot represents - family members etc.  
We ahve quite a proportion of &#039;absentee parents&#039; and people with families all around the globe.  They use the various web presences to keep track of what the children are doing.  Thats the power of the technology!

Whiteboards are becoming a bit of a fad here too and I like to remind people about a victorian era classroom and get them to make the comparison with an interactive WB.  Some of the practices I see are not much different - real &#039;sage on the stage&#039; stuff.  In other cases they can be powerful facilitators of learning.  It all depends on how they are used.  They CAN just be a way of making average teaching a whole lot more expensive to run!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again&#8230;.<br />
I don&#8217;t see the the clustr maps so much as a gimic as a tool for tracking audience.  A good way to get a feel for who is interested and out there, and particularly interested enough to come back.  I know for our kids at school the power of them came from seeing that there genuinely is an audience and that some of them know who a particular dot represents &#8211; family members etc.<br />
We ahve quite a proportion of &#8216;absentee parents&#8217; and people with families all around the globe.  They use the various web presences to keep track of what the children are doing.  Thats the power of the technology!</p>
<p>Whiteboards are becoming a bit of a fad here too and I like to remind people about a victorian era classroom and get them to make the comparison with an interactive WB.  Some of the practices I see are not much different &#8211; real &#8216;sage on the stage&#8217; stuff.  In other cases they can be powerful facilitators of learning.  It all depends on how they are used.  They CAN just be a way of making average teaching a whole lot more expensive to run!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Upton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Upton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graham, it’s wonderful to see you using your ‘spare’ time so productively, creating such a useful and reflective resource. I delight as you continue building your ever increasing network and profile as an educational blogger.
Your post and its accompanying comments reflect well the value of using blogging to help develop educational dialogue. 

I wish you well Thomas as you consider using blogs in the classroom and dare advise you not to ‘hang back’ too much while the ‘background work and practice’ takes place before using it with the learning you&#039;ll help facilitate.

The Sufi saying via Terry is timeless (actually I suppose it isn’t:) and reminds me of the one where someone ill-informed (read ‘pickpocket’) can’t even see the Holy Man (‘forest’) for the trees. :)

Thanks Karen. I feel better living and blogging in Adelaide. It’s also quite empowering to know that my blogging ‘diet&#039; and perspective (a great analogy) could be seen as exotic to (or even just contain some tasty tidbits for) others.

Greg ‘the perpetual challenge is to get people to respond and contribute so it becomes a conversation and interactive rather than one-way’ Carroll is right-on-the-mark as well. So often I see visitor’s maps celebrating the number of global visits to a variety of blogs. Blog stats are held high and credibility claimed. Might they reflect reading/scanning/reflecting? Is that really the point? ‘I’m writing but is anyone reading?’ has been raised before. What are the implications for us as educators? How can we discern the relevance placed on this by our students? My kids seem to get a huge kick out of seeing themselves and their thoughts published on our blog.

I think we need to delve more into this aspect of multifaceted blogging. Perhaps for our CEGSA presentation we can also consider the transformation of a read only web to read/write still lacks the other ‘R’ = ‘Respond’. [I’d claim these 3 R’s as original but reckon they aren’t and would love to see further discussion regarding them] I occasionally comment on others’ blogs but still spend literally hours most nights after school reading/writing and responding. Getting the balance right is the thing for me. In the classroom my kids are doing this increasingly right now. [check out their early attempts at http://alupton.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/leeroy-jenkins/ ] Working with the kids and exploring the potential of blogs better informs me as an educator. This in turn I share with other educators. Gently I hope there will be a transition to this dialogue happening more within and beyond a South Australian blogosphere.

Graham, I always enjoy your thoughts as an educational blogger and contributions to blogging as professional learning. I think the balance we provide has great value. “You may as well write your thoughts up in a Word document” leads me to agree that it certainly is beneficial to be a reader of blogs. Many would say imperative.
To further our discussion and presentation please allow me to insert IWB language for that of blogging in a quote from your post ...

“In summary, until you become aware of the power of a real audience that can potentially come with aN INTERACTIVE WHITEBOARD, you won’t be able to harness that power effectively for your students and INTERACTIVE WHITBOARDING runs the danger of becoming a short term gimmick.” 

How do we go about becoming aware of this power? :) 

I think there is a strong argument for educators (including leaders) developing their blogging skills and getting them happening at the same time in the classrooms enhancing the opportunity for students to connect with their learning.   

It’s a great debate and learning curve. I’m glad we’re on the same journey.
Cheers, Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graham, it’s wonderful to see you using your ‘spare’ time so productively, creating such a useful and reflective resource. I delight as you continue building your ever increasing network and profile as an educational blogger.<br />
Your post and its accompanying comments reflect well the value of using blogging to help develop educational dialogue. </p>
<p>I wish you well Thomas as you consider using blogs in the classroom and dare advise you not to ‘hang back’ too much while the ‘background work and practice’ takes place before using it with the learning you&#8217;ll help facilitate.</p>
<p>The Sufi saying via Terry is timeless (actually I suppose it isn’t:) and reminds me of the one where someone ill-informed (read ‘pickpocket’) can’t even see the Holy Man (‘forest’) for the trees. <img src='http://gwegner.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks Karen. I feel better living and blogging in Adelaide. It’s also quite empowering to know that my blogging ‘diet&#8217; and perspective (a great analogy) could be seen as exotic to (or even just contain some tasty tidbits for) others.</p>
<p>Greg ‘the perpetual challenge is to get people to respond and contribute so it becomes a conversation and interactive rather than one-way’ Carroll is right-on-the-mark as well. So often I see visitor’s maps celebrating the number of global visits to a variety of blogs. Blog stats are held high and credibility claimed. Might they reflect reading/scanning/reflecting? Is that really the point? ‘I’m writing but is anyone reading?’ has been raised before. What are the implications for us as educators? How can we discern the relevance placed on this by our students? My kids seem to get a huge kick out of seeing themselves and their thoughts published on our blog.</p>
<p>I think we need to delve more into this aspect of multifaceted blogging. Perhaps for our CEGSA presentation we can also consider the transformation of a read only web to read/write still lacks the other ‘R’ = ‘Respond’. [I’d claim these 3 R’s as original but reckon they aren’t and would love to see further discussion regarding them] I occasionally comment on others’ blogs but still spend literally hours most nights after school reading/writing and responding. Getting the balance right is the thing for me. In the classroom my kids are doing this increasingly right now. [check out their early attempts at <a href="http://alupton.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/leeroy-jenkins/" rel="nofollow">http://alupton.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/leeroy-jenkins/</a> ] Working with the kids and exploring the potential of blogs better informs me as an educator. This in turn I share with other educators. Gently I hope there will be a transition to this dialogue happening more within and beyond a South Australian blogosphere.</p>
<p>Graham, I always enjoy your thoughts as an educational blogger and contributions to blogging as professional learning. I think the balance we provide has great value. “You may as well write your thoughts up in a Word document” leads me to agree that it certainly is beneficial to be a reader of blogs. Many would say imperative.<br />
To further our discussion and presentation please allow me to insert IWB language for that of blogging in a quote from your post &#8230;</p>
<p>“In summary, until you become aware of the power of a real audience that can potentially come with aN INTERACTIVE WHITEBOARD, you won’t be able to harness that power effectively for your students and INTERACTIVE WHITBOARDING runs the danger of becoming a short term gimmick.” </p>
<p>How do we go about becoming aware of this power? <img src='http://gwegner.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think there is a strong argument for educators (including leaders) developing their blogging skills and getting them happening at the same time in the classrooms enhancing the opportunity for students to connect with their learning.   </p>
<p>It’s a great debate and learning curve. I’m glad we’re on the same journey.<br />
Cheers, Al</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/05/31/blog-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but what you don&#039;t realise, Graham, is that humble old Adelaide is &lt;b&gt;most&lt;/b&gt; exotic to some of us! 

One of the seminal moments for me as an immigrant to the UK was to see fruit from my home country (South Africa) on the &quot;exotic fruits&quot; stand in the stores. What was also weird was that only &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; of the fruits appeared there: physalis, pineapple, papaya, mango, granadilla (passionfruit), litchi. Apples, oranges, pears, plums and bananas were together with the &quot;normal&quot; stuff. So what is the criterion for exotic? Some of the stuff you do will be normal to us, but some of it will be way out there. And the dividing line will differ from person to person.

That&#039;s the beauty of blogging your experience - you never know what someone else is going to find valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but what you don&#8217;t realise, Graham, is that humble old Adelaide is <b>most</b> exotic to some of us! </p>
<p>One of the seminal moments for me as an immigrant to the UK was to see fruit from my home country (South Africa) on the &#8220;exotic fruits&#8221; stand in the stores. What was also weird was that only <b>some</b> of the fruits appeared there: physalis, pineapple, papaya, mango, granadilla (passionfruit), litchi. Apples, oranges, pears, plums and bananas were together with the &#8220;normal&#8221; stuff. So what is the criterion for exotic? Some of the stuff you do will be normal to us, but some of it will be way out there. And the dividing line will differ from person to person.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of blogging your experience &#8211; you never know what someone else is going to find valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all of you for your comments - I now have more blogs to fit into my Bloglines account. The comments section of a blog is crucial to linking conversation and I think my post overlooks that important component to some degree. Comments alert the blogger to readers and their online spaces that might otherwise remain anonymous and I always think that if someone takes the time (not necessarily spare time!) to comment, it is my duty to take the opportunity to comment back with those readers. And as all of you have done, I should also let other bloggers that haven&#039;t had previous interaction with me know that I&#039;m reading by commenting on their posts. I am still constantly amazed that people (many of whom are in higher and more advanced employment than me) are reading the everyday trials, tribulations and thoughts of a local primary school based practitioner here in humble old unexotic Adelaide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all of you for your comments &#8211; I now have more blogs to fit into my Bloglines account. The comments section of a blog is crucial to linking conversation and I think my post overlooks that important component to some degree. Comments alert the blogger to readers and their online spaces that might otherwise remain anonymous and I always think that if someone takes the time (not necessarily spare time!) to comment, it is my duty to take the opportunity to comment back with those readers. And as all of you have done, I should also let other bloggers that haven&#8217;t had previous interaction with me know that I&#8217;m reading by commenting on their posts. I am still constantly amazed that people (many of whom are in higher and more advanced employment than me) are reading the everyday trials, tribulations and thoughts of a local primary school based practitioner here in humble old unexotic Adelaide.</p>
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		<title>By: greg carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the value of blogging to organise thinking and collate on-line resources, etc.  I have been blogging as part of my role for most of this year.  I have found it a great thing to be doing and is now very much part of my day - as is checking out my blogline.
It is interesting the things that have been fed back to me that other people have found useful from my blog - cool feedback.  The perpetual challenge is to get people to respond and contribute so it becomes a conversation and interactive rather than on-way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the value of blogging to organise thinking and collate on-line resources, etc.  I have been blogging as part of my role for most of this year.  I have found it a great thing to be doing and is now very much part of my day &#8211; as is checking out my blogline.<br />
It is interesting the things that have been fed back to me that other people have found useful from my blog &#8211; cool feedback.  The perpetual challenge is to get people to respond and contribute so it becomes a conversation and interactive rather than on-way.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to blog about what you learn at the masterclass so that the rest of us &quot;with a lot of spare time&quot; can learn vicariously from your experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to blog about what you learn at the masterclass so that the rest of us &#8220;with a lot of spare time&#8221; can learn vicariously from your experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Teaching and Developing Online.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teaching and Developing Online.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blog On...&lt;/strong&gt;

One of the best ways to annoy me is to come up to me in mid-conversation wth someone about the benefits of blogging and drop this line,” Blogging. You’ve obviously got a lot of spare time.” Blog On......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blog On&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>One of the best ways to annoy me is to come up to me in mid-conversation wth someone about the benefits of blogging and drop this line,” Blogging. You’ve obviously got a lot of spare time.” Blog On&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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