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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/05/23/sound-barriers/comment-page-1/#comment-16032</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 04:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;day Mike,
I suppose what I&#039;ve settled on in the classroom is a bit of a casual agreement with students about the use of ipods and music within the classroom. iPods are only used when the student is about to work on an individual task that doesn&#039;t require teacher instruction or discussion with class mates. It could be an art lesson, typing up a piece of writing, reading a book and it can&#039;t distract anyone else around them. This seems to work although I can&#039;t say that it produces better or worse work except it seems to keep the prone to distraction kids on task and away from bothering others who are trying to get their own work done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day Mike,<br />
I suppose what I&#8217;ve settled on in the classroom is a bit of a casual agreement with students about the use of ipods and music within the classroom. iPods are only used when the student is about to work on an individual task that doesn&#8217;t require teacher instruction or discussion with class mates. It could be an art lesson, typing up a piece of writing, reading a book and it can&#8217;t distract anyone else around them. This seems to work although I can&#8217;t say that it produces better or worse work except it seems to keep the prone to distraction kids on task and away from bothering others who are trying to get their own work done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Just wondering if a couple years down the track you have any follow-up on the issue of engagement behind a sound barrier (interesting title)? I am in the middle of experimenting with what music helps with learning...it would appear that some music whilst keeps the students quiet might actually decrease their capacity to engage with the subject.</description>
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<p>Just wondering if a couple years down the track you have any follow-up on the issue of engagement behind a sound barrier (interesting title)? I am in the middle of experimenting with what music helps with learning&#8230;it would appear that some music whilst keeps the students quiet might actually decrease their capacity to engage with the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Draper</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/05/23/sound-barriers/comment-page-1/#comment-12218</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why must student iPod use be limited to music?  Why must student mobile phone use be limited to texting friends and other non-academic purposes?

It seems to me that if we are truly as creative as we think we are (as teachers) then we can surely come up with more educational uses for such devices.

For a few excellent examples, spend a little time on Tony Vincent&#039;s site: http://learninginhand.com/index.html .

Music and text messaging are just the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must student iPod use be limited to music?  Why must student mobile phone use be limited to texting friends and other non-academic purposes?</p>
<p>It seems to me that if we are truly as creative as we think we are (as teachers) then we can surely come up with more educational uses for such devices.</p>
<p>For a few excellent examples, spend a little time on Tony Vincent&#8217;s site: <a href="http://learninginhand.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://learninginhand.com/index.html</a> .</p>
<p>Music and text messaging are just the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Skiera</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/05/23/sound-barriers/comment-page-1/#comment-12217</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Skiera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the school I teach at there is a ban on ipods and cell phones.  Personally, I agree with the ban on cell phones during school hours, but think that ipod use shoud be at the teachers disgression.  Many students need music to help them concentrate or relax and think.  How many teachers put music on the radio when their class is working?  Why shouldn&#039;t the kids be able to listen to their own music if they are not distracting anyone else and are on task.  However, in order to this to work the teachers must strictly enforce that students may only use ipods after getting permission from the teahcers.  If they are using them at inappropriate times, (i.e during instruction) they will lose their privelages at all times.  Another topic that has to be addressed before allowing ipods is volume and sharing headphones.  These are two things that should be closely monitored.  All in all, as long as there are strict rules that are enforced about ipod use I think it would be a good thing to allow in the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the school I teach at there is a ban on ipods and cell phones.  Personally, I agree with the ban on cell phones during school hours, but think that ipod use shoud be at the teachers disgression.  Many students need music to help them concentrate or relax and think.  How many teachers put music on the radio when their class is working?  Why shouldn&#8217;t the kids be able to listen to their own music if they are not distracting anyone else and are on task.  However, in order to this to work the teachers must strictly enforce that students may only use ipods after getting permission from the teahcers.  If they are using them at inappropriate times, (i.e during instruction) they will lose their privelages at all times.  Another topic that has to be addressed before allowing ipods is volume and sharing headphones.  These are two things that should be closely monitored.  All in all, as long as there are strict rules that are enforced about ipod use I think it would be a good thing to allow in the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Profe</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/05/23/sound-barriers/comment-page-1/#comment-11935</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Profe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a no-iPods policy at the school where I teach in classrooms and in study halls.  However, when students are on break, then they may use them.

That being said, I have allowed students to listen to music as they are taking a test. Honestly, I have not measured the impact - postive or negative- on their test scores.  Something to consider for the following year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a no-iPods policy at the school where I teach in classrooms and in study halls.  However, when students are on break, then they may use them.</p>
<p>That being said, I have allowed students to listen to music as they are taking a test. Honestly, I have not measured the impact &#8211; postive or negative- on their test scores.  Something to consider for the following year.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 07:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a weird co-incidence I was reading your blog, was going to make a comment; but then decided dinner had to take priority.... only to return to see that I had missed your skype message... will catch you another time.

Anyway, back to the ipod business: 
At our primary school juniors are not allowed to bring ipods/expensive electrical stuff to school; middles and seniors are able to bring it with teacher &amp; home&#039;s permission. 

I have my ipod in class with the kids so they can listen to podcasts etc sometimes during group rotation time.

As an aside, cell phones are a complete ban in case you were wondering. However when we watched &quot;Pay Attention&quot; at our staff meeting last month I did see a couple of teacher&#039;s prick their ears up at the thought of using them.

Cheers, Rachel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a weird co-incidence I was reading your blog, was going to make a comment; but then decided dinner had to take priority&#8230;. only to return to see that I had missed your skype message&#8230; will catch you another time.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the ipod business:<br />
At our primary school juniors are not allowed to bring ipods/expensive electrical stuff to school; middles and seniors are able to bring it with teacher &amp; home&#8217;s permission. </p>
<p>I have my ipod in class with the kids so they can listen to podcasts etc sometimes during group rotation time.</p>
<p>As an aside, cell phones are a complete ban in case you were wondering. However when we watched &#8220;Pay Attention&#8221; at our staff meeting last month I did see a couple of teacher&#8217;s prick their ears up at the thought of using them.</p>
<p>Cheers, Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Cofino</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/05/23/sound-barriers/comment-page-1/#comment-11932</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Cofino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a &quot;no iPods&quot; policy at our school, but I admit that I break the rules - only because I see a huge difference in behavior and focus when I allow students to listen to their own music.

I still treat it as a privilege, not a right, so they must ask me before they can bring out their iPods, but I almost never say no. I notice that those who ask me to use their iPod can concentrate better when they don&#039;t have classroom distractions. I have also noticed that students that tend to be a distraction to others will happily use their iPod and &quot;magically&quot; turn into the perfect student - focusing on their own work and leaving other students alone.

I personally, find it much easier to concentrate when listening to the music of my choice, rather than the distraction of other voices. If it helps me, why shouldn&#039;t I let it help my students?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a &#8220;no iPods&#8221; policy at our school, but I admit that I break the rules &#8211; only because I see a huge difference in behavior and focus when I allow students to listen to their own music.</p>
<p>I still treat it as a privilege, not a right, so they must ask me before they can bring out their iPods, but I almost never say no. I notice that those who ask me to use their iPod can concentrate better when they don&#8217;t have classroom distractions. I have also noticed that students that tend to be a distraction to others will happily use their iPod and &#8220;magically&#8221; turn into the perfect student &#8211; focusing on their own work and leaving other students alone.</p>
<p>I personally, find it much easier to concentrate when listening to the music of my choice, rather than the distraction of other voices. If it helps me, why shouldn&#8217;t I let it help my students?</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan McIntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 07:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our policy in East Lothian is &#039;adapted&#039; (read: changed *a lot*) by the Head Teachers in each school. However, the most successful learning is taking place where students&#039; own devices - iPods, mobiles (which often have the same functionality), PDAs, Nintendos - can be used in the school areas and, where the teacher sees a good use, in the classroom.

Ideally we would see more learners being given the power to bring out the tool they feel fits the task, without the permission giving of the teacher.

As for creating podcasts, *huge* benefits for almost every subject I can think of. Kids can feed back into the education of their peers, too, by sharing their take on their learning for later years.

The quotes I get from kids and pop on the blog now and then reveal that they enjoy the challenge of the task and the authenticity of having real people get real benefit out of their show. Just scratching the surface here, but wish you luck in your venture and would love to see how things develop through the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our policy in East Lothian is &#8216;adapted&#8217; (read: changed *a lot*) by the Head Teachers in each school. However, the most successful learning is taking place where students&#8217; own devices &#8211; iPods, mobiles (which often have the same functionality), PDAs, Nintendos &#8211; can be used in the school areas and, where the teacher sees a good use, in the classroom.</p>
<p>Ideally we would see more learners being given the power to bring out the tool they feel fits the task, without the permission giving of the teacher.</p>
<p>As for creating podcasts, *huge* benefits for almost every subject I can think of. Kids can feed back into the education of their peers, too, by sharing their take on their learning for later years.</p>
<p>The quotes I get from kids and pop on the blog now and then reveal that they enjoy the challenge of the task and the authenticity of having real people get real benefit out of their show. Just scratching the surface here, but wish you luck in your venture and would love to see how things develop through the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 03:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My students are doing a reading project completely on the computers right now. Sometimes I let them listen to music while they&#039;re working and sometimes I don&#039;t. I&#039;d agree about 50% with both sides of this issue. About half my students get the music started then get to work. The other half are constantly changing songs, finding new songs, or they are using finetune.com and are always trying to set up their playlists. So, I think it either depends on the student, or depends on whether or not they have a playlist set up. 

My school does have an ipod/cell phone policy. Can&#039;t have them at school. It&#039;s a battle I don&#039;t fight with them. If I see an ipod or a cell phone I tell them to put it away. If they are using it in class I take it and if it&#039;s a first offense they get it back at the end of the period. Second offense I send it down to the office and a parent has to come pick it up. I&#039;d keep them myself until parents show up, but those are expensive items and we have some students that tend to walk away with things that aren&#039;t theirs. I don&#039;t want to be held responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My students are doing a reading project completely on the computers right now. Sometimes I let them listen to music while they&#8217;re working and sometimes I don&#8217;t. I&#8217;d agree about 50% with both sides of this issue. About half my students get the music started then get to work. The other half are constantly changing songs, finding new songs, or they are using finetune.com and are always trying to set up their playlists. So, I think it either depends on the student, or depends on whether or not they have a playlist set up. </p>
<p>My school does have an ipod/cell phone policy. Can&#8217;t have them at school. It&#8217;s a battle I don&#8217;t fight with them. If I see an ipod or a cell phone I tell them to put it away. If they are using it in class I take it and if it&#8217;s a first offense they get it back at the end of the period. Second offense I send it down to the office and a parent has to come pick it up. I&#8217;d keep them myself until parents show up, but those are expensive items and we have some students that tend to walk away with things that aren&#8217;t theirs. I don&#8217;t want to be held responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Draper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings-

Matt Horne recently wrote an interesting post on his blog (esltechnology.com/?p=37) about his first experiences of podcasting with his ESL classes.  I think his experience runs parallel with most teachers that attempt podcasting with the students:  a definite struggle, but worth it in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings-</p>
<p>Matt Horne recently wrote an interesting post on his blog (esltechnology.com/?p=37) about his first experiences of podcasting with his ESL classes.  I think his experience runs parallel with most teachers that attempt podcasting with the students:  a definite struggle, but worth it in the end.</p>
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