Comments on: Don’t Believe The Hype http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: dy/dan » Blog Archive » Dialing Down The Hype, pt. 2 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-14008 dy/dan » Blog Archive » Dialing Down The Hype, pt. 2 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:56:12 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-14008 [...] Graham Wegner: holding the hype down in Australia. [...] [...] Graham Wegner: holding the hype down in Australia. [...]

]]> By: » K12 Online 2007 - The Pre-Conference Keynote Learning Curve http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12934 » K12 Online 2007 - The Pre-Conference Keynote Learning Curve Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:54:30 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12934 [...] pleased another Australian, Graham Wegner, alluded to the hype surrounding this keynote.  I was a little caught up in the hype myself.  Then I was a little scared that I might have been [...] [...] pleased another Australian, Graham Wegner, alluded to the hype surrounding this keynote.  I was a little caught up in the hype myself.  Then I was a little scared that I might have been [...]

]]> By: Graham Wegner http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12928 Graham Wegner Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:50:36 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12928 The ultimate hype situation would be definitely a edublogosphere keynote on twitter in Second Life Ustreamed to your desktop. ;-) Seriously, a whole bunch of stuff was annoying me and I purged it all in this blog post and freed my mind for other thoughts. I loved the fact that <a href="http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=435" rel="nofollow">Dan was blogging</a> in a similar vein without either of us being conscious of each other's frame of mind and ultimately, this is not about questioning the value of any web bound tool or platform, it's about recognising the fact that many people start exaggerating and overblowing the potential worth of said tools before they've even lost their brand new beta shine. Some people thrive on hype - I'm just saying personally, I could do with a little less. And Dan's post gave me the chance to read <a href="http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=435#comment-25874" rel="nofollow">Ken's point of view</a> (and subsequently subscribe to <a href="http://kenrodoff.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">his blog</a>) which is as good way as any for me to move forward. <em>"And I will no longer jump into every pool, every virtual environment just to be in it."</em> The ultimate hype situation would be definitely a edublogosphere keynote on twitter in Second Life Ustreamed to your desktop. ;-)
Seriously, a whole bunch of stuff was annoying me and I purged it all in this blog post and freed my mind for other thoughts. I loved the fact that Dan was blogging in a similar vein without either of us being conscious of each other’s frame of mind and ultimately, this is not about questioning the value of any web bound tool or platform, it’s about recognising the fact that many people start exaggerating and overblowing the potential worth of said tools before they’ve even lost their brand new beta shine. Some people thrive on hype – I’m just saying personally, I could do with a little less.

And Dan’s post gave me the chance to read Ken’s point of view (and subsequently subscribe to his blog) which is as good way as any for me to move forward.
“And I will no longer jump into every pool, every virtual environment just to be in it.”

]]> By: Sean FitzGerald http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12927 Sean FitzGerald Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:50:38 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12927 Geez Graham... you forgot to put the boot into Second Life hype as well! :-) Geez Graham… you forgot to put the boot into Second Life hype as well! :-)

]]> By: Sue Waters http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12923 Sue Waters Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:46:34 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12923 Graham I totally agree with everything you said on the K12 online blog regarding David's presentation - even if as a podcaster I can't say it as well as you! And like you I believe it was the hype that annoyed me the most. Here is the follow up comment I posted on their blog: As Clay said “pleasing an international audience (of educators, especially ;-) is a thankless job, and impossible to boot.” I don’t think it is about “experienced advanced folks in the blogosphere need a whole different keynote” but that individuals will connect with presenters for different reasons. I can name some really classic examples of really well known, and respected presenters, whose sessions I have attended that I totally have not connected with and others, like Nigel Paine, who I would listen to talk about the same topic a million times because his style probably suits me more. If you looked at the difference in styles between them I am more able to relate to how Nigel tells his stories. I remember having a discussion with another Australian colleague regarding sessions we had attended on online facilitation - I totally loved one session and was lost in the other - he totally loved the other session and was not fussed with the one I loved. The person I loved proved all the facts and figures, which I immediately love since I am a scientist, whereas the one he loved modeled colorful use of language, and my friend is into language whereas I can struggle if I can’t relate to the words used. Lets be honest — this is the great part of K12 online conference — with so many sessions, presented in a range of formats, we will all connect with different ideas and we will all have fantastic, spontaneous discussions on our thoughts that will question our beliefs leading us off into directions we would never realise were possible. Thanks Clay, Graham, Patrick and Sheryl for the spontaneous conversations– I enjoyed it. Looking forward to more conversations with more people as the conference happens. My thoughts on Twitter and Ustream Look Twitter is like anything --- you decide how much noise you want to listen too! The key with uStream is like any tool -- some will use it effectively others won't. If you watch a session that is not good then no way will you think it is good. Yes you are right I should have done a post on my blog instead of this long comment -- but was worried about the hype! Sue Graham I totally agree with everything you said on the K12 online blog regarding David’s presentation – even if as a podcaster I can’t say it as well as you! And like you I believe it was the hype that annoyed me the most.

Here is the follow up comment I posted on their blog:

As Clay said “pleasing an international audience (of educators, especially ;-) is a thankless job, and impossible to boot.” I don’t think it is about “experienced advanced folks in the blogosphere need a whole different keynote” but that individuals will connect with presenters for different reasons.

I can name some really classic examples of really well known, and respected presenters, whose sessions I have attended that I totally have not connected with and others, like Nigel Paine, who I would listen to talk about the same topic a million times because his style probably suits me more. If you looked at the difference in styles between them I am more able to relate to how Nigel tells his stories.

I remember having a discussion with another Australian colleague regarding sessions we had attended on online facilitation – I totally loved one session and was lost in the other – he totally loved the other session and was not fussed with the one I loved. The person I loved proved all the facts and figures, which I immediately love since I am a scientist, whereas the one he loved modeled colorful use of language, and my friend is into language whereas I can struggle if I can’t relate to the words used.

Lets be honest — this is the great part of K12 online conference — with so many sessions, presented in a range of formats, we will all connect with different ideas and we will all have fantastic, spontaneous discussions on our thoughts that will question our beliefs leading us off into directions we would never realise were possible. Thanks Clay, Graham, Patrick and Sheryl for the spontaneous conversations– I enjoyed it. Looking forward to more conversations with more people as the conference happens.

My thoughts on Twitter and Ustream
Look Twitter is like anything — you decide how much noise you want to listen too! The key with uStream is like any tool — some will use it effectively others won’t. If you watch a session that is not good then no way will you think it is good.

Yes you are right I should have done a post on my blog instead of this long comment — but was worried about the hype!

Sue

]]> By: Diana http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12921 Diana Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:36:56 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12921 Hype can be good... at times... to reinvigorate the conversation. When I feel things lisding a little to the ridiculous, I always get back to... how does this improve teaching and learning. I think there are some amazing applications of online broadcasting in my area with a serious attempt to continue the teaching and learning of the Navajo language. Students in the middle school can be broadcasting 'lessons' and stories for the elementary grades and so on and so forth. I also live in an area that is not very urban and the ability to connect with colleagues changes the way I develop as a teacher... the online broadcasting can be used for that as well. Online broadcasting is not the only tool that accomplish those goals, but it is one new tool that can possibly impact those in a positive way. I would also temper some of the hype, but I think the most important thing is to concentrate on how any of these tools improves teaching and learning. Let's hype that! Hype can be good… at times… to reinvigorate the conversation. When I feel things lisding a little to the ridiculous, I always get back to… how does this improve teaching and learning. I think there are some amazing applications of online broadcasting in my area with a serious attempt to continue the teaching and learning of the Navajo language. Students in the middle school can be broadcasting ‘lessons’ and stories for the elementary grades and so on and so forth. I also live in an area that is not very urban and the ability to connect with colleagues changes the way I develop as a teacher… the online broadcasting can be used for that as well. Online broadcasting is not the only tool that accomplish those goals, but it is one new tool that can possibly impact those in a positive way.

I would also temper some of the hype, but I think the most important thing is to concentrate on how any of these tools improves teaching and learning. Let’s hype that!

]]> By: Dan Meyer http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12920 Dan Meyer Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:46:21 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12920 UStream saved my marriage. UStream saved my marriage.

]]> By: Jane http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-12919 Jane Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:30:34 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/10/11/dont-believe-the-hype/#comment-12919 Oh my! Graham, you are a stirrer :) Always nice to have someone stir the pot and help people think outside the square. I like to think I can find something new in what most people have got to say, even if I have to read between the lines. I think the problem is we are all so engrossed in this technology lark and our thoughts are starting to come bouncing back at us off the walls. Every now and again someone says something new (Miguel Guhlin is good for this) and our thoughts take a different tangent. Even though I sometimes get frustrated I wouldn't want to leave this community. Oh my! Graham, you are a stirrer :)
Always nice to have someone stir the pot and help people think outside the square. I like to think I can find something new in what most people have got to say, even if I have to read between the lines. I think the problem is we are all so engrossed in this technology lark and our thoughts are starting to come bouncing back at us off the walls. Every now and again someone says something new (Miguel Guhlin is good for this) and our thoughts take a different tangent. Even though I sometimes get frustrated I wouldn’t want to leave this community.

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