Comments on: Broadening The Bookmarking http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:37:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Graham Wegner http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-13008 Graham Wegner Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:50:23 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-13008 Sue, would you believe that my comment got bounced off my own blog for having too many links! I'll try again and add the links from within the dashboard later. I don't have a standard list as I tend to pick the relevant app for the person with whom I'm working at the time. For example, when working with my school's teacher-librarian, we wanted to create image galleries to tie in with a unit of work on Community Workers for some junior primary classes. So I showed her <a href="http://www.zoo-m.com/flickr-storm/" rel="nofollow">FlickrStorm</a> where she created a <a href="http://www.zoo-m.com/flickr-storm/set/ab3eeb7710deaedc0c6a286ef7abdbadb29ceb36" rel="nofollow">gallery webpage on surf life saving</a> that she could easily save to her del.icio.us account. The only current training on Web 2.0 tools that I'm doing is a re-run of my iwb 2.0 workshop that packages up apps that interact well with an interactive whiteboard. Why didn't I add edublogs in my list of 5? Well, the more I've blogged, the more I realise it's not for everyone and if it's introduced as the welcome mat to Web 2.0, then we run the risk of turning educators away when something like del.icio.us is such an easy entry point. And as far as PageFlakes goes, if you dig back <a href="http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/04/05/personalising-the-web-using-startpages/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/09/16/startpages-a-quick-comparison/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, you'll get some idea of how I use this tool. (Although I need to play around and see what some of the new plugins can do!) Maybe I should be offering something Web 2.0ish to my local community - after all, CEGSA are always looking for new workshops and presenters. Sue, would you believe that my comment got bounced off my own blog for having too many links! I’ll try again and add the links from within the dashboard later.

I don’t have a standard list as I tend to pick the relevant app for the person with whom I’m working at the time. For example, when working with my school’s teacher-librarian, we wanted to create image galleries to tie in with a unit of work on Community Workers for some junior primary classes. So I showed her FlickrStorm where she created a gallery webpage on surf life saving that she could easily save to her del.icio.us account.

The only current training on Web 2.0 tools that I’m doing is a re-run of my iwb 2.0 workshop that packages up apps that interact well with an interactive whiteboard.

Why didn’t I add edublogs in my list of 5? Well, the more I’ve blogged, the more I realise it’s not for everyone and if it’s introduced as the welcome mat to Web 2.0, then we run the risk of turning educators away when something like del.icio.us is such an easy entry point. And as far as PageFlakes goes, if you dig back here and here, you’ll get some idea of how I use this tool. (Although I need to play around and see what some of the new plugins can do!)

Maybe I should be offering something Web 2.0ish to my local community – after all, CEGSA are always looking for new workshops and presenters.

]]> By: Sue Waters http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-13007 Sue Waters Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:35:46 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-13007 Sorry Graham I only set the limit because I thought you might not answer if I made it longer. But now that you have opened that avenue when you run a series of Web 2.0 is the list of tools that you show them longer than this list and if so what are they? I am assuming that your list is prioritised? And no I don't need any reasons except for the fact I don't use pageflakes so would love to hear how you use pageflakes. Sorry Graham I only set the limit because I thought you might not answer if I made it longer. But now that you have opened that avenue when you run a series of Web 2.0 is the list of tools that you show them longer than this list and if so what are they?

I am assuming that your list is prioritised? And no I don’t need any reasons except for the fact I don’t use pageflakes so would love to hear how you use pageflakes.

]]> By: Graham Wegner http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-13005 Graham Wegner Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:35:18 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-13005 Thanks, guys, for all of your additional insight. I did know about the "private" setting but I just know some of my teachers will go for that straightaway and then never open themselves to all of the other benefits. I like the for: feature - Alex Hayes sends me links regularly through that process and I was doing likewise when my school's science teacher was asking where I kept finding good interactive sites and could I email them to her so she could add them to her Favorites. I kept repeating the mantra, "Use your del.cio.us, use your del.icio.us" and when her laptop crashed taking her Favorites with it, she would walk past me and before I could utter a word, the hand would be up and "Graham, I know, this wouldn't have happened with del.icio.us!" Sue, as for your question about top 5 lists (although setting a number is somewhat limiting) here goes - 1. del.icio.us, 2. pageflakes, 3. GMail/Google Reader, 4. wikispaces, and 5. flickrCC. Basically, I just recommend what I use myself constantly for a variety of purposes. Do you need reasons as well? Thanks, guys, for all of your additional insight. I did know about the “private” setting but I just know some of my teachers will go for that straightaway and then never open themselves to all of the other benefits. I like the for: feature – Alex Hayes sends me links regularly through that process and I was doing likewise when my school’s science teacher was asking where I kept finding good interactive sites and could I email them to her so she could add them to her Favorites. I kept repeating the mantra, “Use your del.cio.us, use your del.icio.us” and when her laptop crashed taking her Favorites with it, she would walk past me and before I could utter a word, the hand would be up and “Graham, I know, this wouldn’t have happened with del.icio.us!”

Sue, as for your question about top 5 lists (although setting a number is somewhat limiting) here goes – 1. del.icio.us, 2. pageflakes, 3. GMail/Google Reader, 4. wikispaces, and 5. flickrCC. Basically, I just recommend what I use myself constantly for a variety of purposes. Do you need reasons as well?

]]> By: Sue Waters http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-13004 Sue Waters Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:44:18 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-13004 Interesting -- last year I was involved with a Web 2.0 project (as a participant) where we learnt about a wide range of tools and del.icio.us was one of the tools. One year down the track your post has made me think that it is worth checking from the list of tools that they were shown/learnt which ones have engaged them and they are now using, and what aren't they using. What I have found is that these people are at least now coming to ask more questions relating how to do things which is a good sign. If you had to prioritizes which tools you taught teachers when you facilitate professional development which would be your top 5 tools that you feel are more likely to engage them with? Interesting — last year I was involved with a Web 2.0 project (as a participant) where we learnt about a wide range of tools and del.icio.us was one of the tools. One year down the track your post has made me think that it is worth checking from the list of tools that they were shown/learnt which ones have engaged them and they are now using, and what aren’t they using. What I have found is that these people are at least now coming to ask more questions relating how to do things which is a good sign.

If you had to prioritizes which tools you taught teachers when you facilitate professional development which would be your top 5 tools that you feel are more likely to engage them with?

]]> By: tbarrett http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-13000 tbarrett Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:52:45 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-13000 Hi Graham - we have been running with a single account for our school in del.icio.us for a while now. This does simplify it a step as you do not need to add links in from your network of individual staff. I have also found adding a star rating very useful. You would clearly hope that staff always add quality web resources but it does just allow you to simply say ***** - this is outstanding! We are priestsic on del.icio.us let me know if you find some useful links there. Sharing the account url with the kids has given them such direction too, they know that the resources have been selected by us and enjoy the variety they can find in one place. Sounds like we are in a similar situation as you with IWBs and now a set of wireless laptops in class too. Hi Graham – we have been running with a single account for our school in del.icio.us for a while now. This does simplify it a step as you do not need to add links in from your network of individual staff. I have also found adding a star rating very useful. You would clearly hope that staff always add quality web resources but it does just allow you to simply say ***** – this is outstanding! We are priestsic on del.icio.us let me know if you find some useful links there. Sharing the account url with the kids has given them such direction too, they know that the resources have been selected by us and enjoy the variety they can find in one place.
Sounds like we are in a similar situation as you with IWBs and now a set of wireless laptops in class too.

]]> By: Allanahk http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-12999 Allanahk Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:48:56 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-12999 I use the NOT SHARED option in Delicious to save my username and password to sites that I am likely to forget the password to. NOT SHARED means that I have to be logged in to see the passwords and no-one else can see them. And then I have a tag which is NOTSHARED so that all passwords and usernames are easy to find. Very cool. http://del.icio.us/allanahk I use the NOT SHARED option in Delicious to save my username and password to sites that I am likely to forget the password to.

NOT SHARED means that I have to be logged in to see the passwords and no-one else can see them.

And then I have a tag which is NOTSHARED so that all passwords and usernames are easy to find. Very cool.

http://del.icio.us/allanahk

]]> By: Doug Noon http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-12998 Doug Noon Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:42:47 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-12998 You can mark them private. I've never done that, though. I remember when I began using del.icio.us I was concerned about having "too many" tags. I tried using the tag bundles for a while to organize what has now grown to over 5,000 tags. (I like <a href="del.icio.us/noon" rel="nofollow">del.icio.us</a>). But adding tags to the bundle categories was too much trouble. So I scrapped that idea. I've used "tag rolls" to build the blogroll on my site. I don't have it, at the moment, but I could add to it by simply tagging a new site with my special tag, and it would appear on my blog automatically. I even got a message from someone through the Links-for-you feature where someone can tag a link with for:username, and send a link to a specific account to be either approved or ignored. One of the people in my little network wrote a personal thank you to me for linking to something, and sent his message with a link, using that feature. That was ingenious, I thought. My network page is my start page for my browser. It's like reading the headlines on the internet. If you include a broad mix of users with a wide variety of interests, you can find links to just about any subject you're interested in. You can mark them private. I’ve never done that, though. I remember when I began using del.icio.us I was concerned about having “too many” tags. I tried using the tag bundles for a while to organize what has now grown to over 5,000 tags. (I like del.icio.us). But adding tags to the bundle categories was too much trouble. So I scrapped that idea.

I’ve used “tag rolls” to build the blogroll on my site. I don’t have it, at the moment, but I could add to it by simply tagging a new site with my special tag, and it would appear on my blog automatically.

I even got a message from someone through the Links-for-you feature where someone can tag a link with for:username, and send a link to a specific account to be either approved or ignored. One of the people in my little network wrote a personal thank you to me for linking to something, and sent his message with a link, using that feature. That was ingenious, I thought.

My network page is my start page for my browser. It’s like reading the headlines on the internet. If you include a broad mix of users with a wide variety of interests, you can find links to just about any subject you’re interested in.

]]> By: Clay Burell http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/comment-page-1/#comment-12997 Clay Burell Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:20:12 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/11/09/broadening-the-bookmarking/#comment-12997 Hi G, Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can mark bookmarks "private" on del.icio.us, can't you? You can on Diigo (which integrates w/delicious anyway, and affords more muscle with annotations, highlight snippets, sharing to groups, and more). Keep on trucking (I really know how to flog a metaphor, I know). Hi G,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you can mark bookmarks “private” on del.icio.us, can’t you? You can on Diigo (which integrates w/delicious anyway, and affords more muscle with annotations, highlight snippets, sharing to groups, and more).

Keep on trucking (I really know how to flog a metaphor, I know).

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