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		<title>By: Week 4 - Social media in ELT &#171; Ann&#8217;s EVO 2008 blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Week 4 - Social media in ELT &#171; Ann&#8217;s EVO 2008 blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got me. Still not very motivated to set up a wiki for my students and Graham Wengner&#8217;s great post on the downside of collaborative projects didn&#8217;t help. However, Gabriela&#8217;s post on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got me. Still not very motivated to set up a wiki for my students and Graham Wengner&#8217;s great post on the downside of collaborative projects didn&#8217;t help. However, Gabriela&#8217;s post on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rounding off &#171; Social Media Citizenship and ELT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rounding off &#171; Social Media Citizenship and ELT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Graham Wegner  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linda Bilak&#8217; Blog &#187; getting edgy about epals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Bilak&#8217; Blog &#187; getting edgy about epals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] participate effectively, to the components of a successful, well managed project. There was even a parable authored by Graham Wegner.More online project pitfalls were highlighted  by Susan Sedro here  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s about the other person &#171; Educational Discourse</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s about the other person &#171; Educational Discourse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] similar thing was happening over at Teaching Generation Z where Graham Wegner’s Parable2.0 provided for a great discussion about how teachers who are wanting to share their passion for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/12/22/parable-20/comment-page-1/#comment-13246</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Kahuna? Tee hee. (That comment flood over what really was a throw-away post - I admit I loved writing it, though - still makes me sigh. If only people would respond so actively to the ideas and posts I sweat blood over.)

This wave is clearly still cresting, bud. I&#039;m going to add a little more wind to its back by replying to Kim to say:

Another thing all tech people who are not driving these projects in a content-area classroom have to remember (and I&#039;m not saying you don&#039;t, Kim) is that they&#039;re not in those other teachers&#039; shoes.  As a classroom teacher who does drive his own geeky projects, I know how overwhelming it can get - and I have the skills to survive and troubleshoot and tolerate frustrations and &quot;Crosbian Messiness.&quot; To expect others to be able to handle the strain of things too ambitious, or too time-consuming relative to the rest of the teaching load on the teacher&#039;s plate, is dangerous.

It&#039;s much easier dreamed than done. That&#039;s why I think George Mayo is onto something important with his &lt;a href=&quot;http://manyvoices.wikispaces.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Many Voices&lt;/a&gt; project. It&#039;s low maintenance, fast, but still potentially high yield.

Happy surfing, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Kahuna? Tee hee. (That comment flood over what really was a throw-away post &#8211; I admit I loved writing it, though &#8211; still makes me sigh. If only people would respond so actively to the ideas and posts I sweat blood over.)</p>
<p>This wave is clearly still cresting, bud. I&#8217;m going to add a little more wind to its back by replying to Kim to say:</p>
<p>Another thing all tech people who are not driving these projects in a content-area classroom have to remember (and I&#8217;m not saying you don&#8217;t, Kim) is that they&#8217;re not in those other teachers&#8217; shoes.  As a classroom teacher who does drive his own geeky projects, I know how overwhelming it can get &#8211; and I have the skills to survive and troubleshoot and tolerate frustrations and &#8220;Crosbian Messiness.&#8221; To expect others to be able to handle the strain of things too ambitious, or too time-consuming relative to the rest of the teaching load on the teacher&#8217;s plate, is dangerous.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much easier dreamed than done. That&#8217;s why I think George Mayo is onto something important with his <a href="http://manyvoices.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">Many Voices</a> project. It&#8217;s low maintenance, fast, but still potentially high yield.</p>
<p>Happy surfing, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: mscofino</title>
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		<dc:creator>mscofino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late in the conversation here, Graham, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciated your post.

I know all too well that feeling of frustration that your tech coordinator experiences. One issue that I&#039;m really struggling with this year (eventually a post will come) is not having any of my own classes to model how these projects can work. 

Leaving all the &quot;real&quot; work up to a classroom teacher that may not have my experience or passion for the type of learning I recommend means that there is really no one to truly model the potential of collaboration. 

I&#039;m stuck recommending, suggesting, &quot;inspiring&quot;, sharing, meeting - but never in control, never able to really demonstrate how this can work. So in the end you have a bunch of project ideas floating around, no one committed, no clear example of what it could look like, and no classroom teacher to take the lead.

After reading your post and Silvia&#039;s, I&#039;m looking for small steps, making connections with teachers here that are ready to understand and embrace these changes (not as add-ons, but as &lt;i&gt;new &lt;/i&gt;ways to do &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; things), and those that are ready to make the commitment to change. Even if it&#039;s only one teacher. That&#039;s my resolution for this year (another post in the works).

Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late in the conversation here, Graham, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciated your post.</p>
<p>I know all too well that feeling of frustration that your tech coordinator experiences. One issue that I&#8217;m really struggling with this year (eventually a post will come) is not having any of my own classes to model how these projects can work. </p>
<p>Leaving all the &#8220;real&#8221; work up to a classroom teacher that may not have my experience or passion for the type of learning I recommend means that there is really no one to truly model the potential of collaboration. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m stuck recommending, suggesting, &#8220;inspiring&#8221;, sharing, meeting &#8211; but never in control, never able to really demonstrate how this can work. So in the end you have a bunch of project ideas floating around, no one committed, no clear example of what it could look like, and no classroom teacher to take the lead.</p>
<p>After reading your post and Silvia&#8217;s, I&#8217;m looking for small steps, making connections with teachers here that are ready to understand and embrace these changes (not as add-ons, but as <i>new </i>ways to do <i>new</i> things), and those that are ready to make the commitment to change. Even if it&#8217;s only one teacher. That&#8217;s my resolution for this year (another post in the works).</p>
<p>Kim</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love creative metaphors and I&#039;m going to use one here (badly or otherwise) to acknowledge the fabulous chain of comments and the links that lead off to other valuable insights. Blogging and comments can be a bit like surfing. You&#039;re out there paddling around, sometimes you&#039;re in much deeper water than you realise and there is the real possibility you could get bitten by a shark. Each post is like paddling really hard for a wave as it rises behind you and you point your board shorewards. Catching the wave is the resultant blog post - how long the ride lasts for depends on the comments. 

In that case, this is the longest string of comments for any blog post I&#039;ve ever written and I&#039;m madly thrashing around in the shallow foam trying to eke the last part of the ride now. I&#039;m usually a small wave rider - unlike other edubloggers like the Big Kahuna (aka &lt;a href=&quot;http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/27/on-leaving-teaching-to-become-a-teacher/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clay&lt;/a&gt;) where 60+ comments is possible on a throwaway blog post! 

Thanks to all who&#039;ve offered other breaks where we can enjoy the ride as others carve up this particular topic. I cannot emphasise enough how much you all should go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://kenrodoff.blogspot.com/2007/12/its-about-time-fictitional-account.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ken&#039;s original post&lt;/a&gt; that triggered my &quot;parable.&quot; We do need a balance between the good news that collaborative projects can enable and the very real hassles and barriers that can thwart that success. 

I&#039;m not sure that technology coordinators need to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=565&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;better salespeople&lt;/a&gt; - after all, successful sales in the real world are usually backed by a marketing campaign (and budget to match). In some ways, I&#039;d prefer to think that some frustrations arise just out of some teachers being risk averse in all situations, not necessarily technology related. Technology just happens to be an obvious example. Cheers, everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love creative metaphors and I&#8217;m going to use one here (badly or otherwise) to acknowledge the fabulous chain of comments and the links that lead off to other valuable insights. Blogging and comments can be a bit like surfing. You&#8217;re out there paddling around, sometimes you&#8217;re in much deeper water than you realise and there is the real possibility you could get bitten by a shark. Each post is like paddling really hard for a wave as it rises behind you and you point your board shorewards. Catching the wave is the resultant blog post &#8211; how long the ride lasts for depends on the comments. </p>
<p>In that case, this is the longest string of comments for any blog post I&#8217;ve ever written and I&#8217;m madly thrashing around in the shallow foam trying to eke the last part of the ride now. I&#8217;m usually a small wave rider &#8211; unlike other edubloggers like the Big Kahuna (aka <a href="http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/27/on-leaving-teaching-to-become-a-teacher/" rel="nofollow">Clay</a>) where 60+ comments is possible on a throwaway blog post! </p>
<p>Thanks to all who&#8217;ve offered other breaks where we can enjoy the ride as others carve up this particular topic. I cannot emphasise enough how much you all should go to <a href="http://kenrodoff.blogspot.com/2007/12/its-about-time-fictitional-account.html" rel="nofollow">ken&#8217;s original post</a> that triggered my &#8220;parable.&#8221; We do need a balance between the good news that collaborative projects can enable and the very real hassles and barriers that can thwart that success. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that technology coordinators need to be <a href="http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=565" rel="nofollow">better salespeople</a> &#8211; after all, successful sales in the real world are usually backed by a marketing campaign (and budget to match). In some ways, I&#8217;d prefer to think that some frustrations arise just out of some teachers being risk averse in all situations, not necessarily technology related. Technology just happens to be an obvious example. Cheers, everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: kwhobbes</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwhobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I mentioned, I had a similar little story although it was clothed in a different form. http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2007/12/20/is-networking-the-answer/ 
It&#039;s great to see that so many of us who have been working with technology are beginning to see some payoff for our efforts. 

Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned, I had a similar little story although it was clothed in a different form. <a href="http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2007/12/20/is-networking-the-answer/" rel="nofollow">http://kwhobbes.edublogs.org/2007/12/20/is-networking-the-answer/</a><br />
It&#8217;s great to see that so many of us who have been working with technology are beginning to see some payoff for our efforts. </p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/12/22/parable-20/comment-page-1/#comment-13233</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kwhobbes: please follow-up with a link to that post!  Also, your idea about leading to social networking rather than integration projects shows great instinct. My MS/HS asst principal asked me to find him resources today to persuade parents of 12 year olds that 1:1 laptop launch will benefit them.  I told him I would set him up on Twitter so he could find such answers himself through simple tweets and give-and-take networking. 

He&#039;s a cool, relaxed, open guy, so he jumped in. Then, because the Twitter homepage is uninviting without a link to a blog (I rarely follow people with no link to a blog), he understood the benefit of having a blog, and took his cool non-chalant &quot;okay I&#039;ll jump in&quot; attitude to signing up on edublogs and writing a &quot;toes in&quot; first post.

He embedded the link in his Twitter page, and was good to go.

Then I did a shout out to my Twitterverse to welcome him in, and he got nice vibes from &lt;a href=&quot;http://thethinkingstick.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Utecht&lt;/a&gt; and others. So he&#039;s in - and he&#039;s blogging (tentatively) as a side-effect.

That&#039;s my upbeat anecdotal evidence that you&#039;re on to something, kwhobbes (is it Kevin?).

Happy New Year, all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kwhobbes: please follow-up with a link to that post!  Also, your idea about leading to social networking rather than integration projects shows great instinct. My MS/HS asst principal asked me to find him resources today to persuade parents of 12 year olds that 1:1 laptop launch will benefit them.  I told him I would set him up on Twitter so he could find such answers himself through simple tweets and give-and-take networking. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s a cool, relaxed, open guy, so he jumped in. Then, because the Twitter homepage is uninviting without a link to a blog (I rarely follow people with no link to a blog), he understood the benefit of having a blog, and took his cool non-chalant &#8220;okay I&#8217;ll jump in&#8221; attitude to signing up on edublogs and writing a &#8220;toes in&#8221; first post.</p>
<p>He embedded the link in his Twitter page, and was good to go.</p>
<p>Then I did a shout out to my Twitterverse to welcome him in, and he got nice vibes from <a href="http://thethinkingstick.org" rel="nofollow">Jeff Utecht</a> and others. So he&#8217;s in &#8211; and he&#8217;s blogging (tentatively) as a side-effect.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my upbeat anecdotal evidence that you&#8217;re on to something, kwhobbes (is it Kevin?).</p>
<p>Happy New Year, all.</p>
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		<title>By: kwhobbes</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwhobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham,

As always a great post. I wrote a similar parable idea a while back - you&#039;ve generated much more feedback! Like all parables, there is truth all can find in the story. As we approach another year, many are wondering what will happen this year? Will this be the year where we finally see growth? Or, like your tech person, will we continue to struggle with implementation and lack of understanding by many? I like the &quot;horse to water&quot; analogy but in this case, I&#039;m not sure the horse even realizes that it has been led to the water. On the flip-side, I&#039;ve seen a growth in teachers using networking to build relationships and, maybe, that is something of a key that we need to develop. Once people develop relationships with others, they may be more willing to try particular ideas or put in the effort to stick with a project. Of all that has been going on in the past few years, the one thing that you cannot hasten is the building of relationships. Maybe the tools will only be as good as the relationships we have and create. 
Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham,</p>
<p>As always a great post. I wrote a similar parable idea a while back &#8211; you&#8217;ve generated much more feedback! Like all parables, there is truth all can find in the story. As we approach another year, many are wondering what will happen this year? Will this be the year where we finally see growth? Or, like your tech person, will we continue to struggle with implementation and lack of understanding by many? I like the &#8220;horse to water&#8221; analogy but in this case, I&#8217;m not sure the horse even realizes that it has been led to the water. On the flip-side, I&#8217;ve seen a growth in teachers using networking to build relationships and, maybe, that is something of a key that we need to develop. Once people develop relationships with others, they may be more willing to try particular ideas or put in the effort to stick with a project. Of all that has been going on in the past few years, the one thing that you cannot hasten is the building of relationships. Maybe the tools will only be as good as the relationships we have and create.<br />
Happy New Year!</p>
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