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		<title>By: ISER Conference Presentation - Web 2.0 &#38; PLNs &#171; Darcy Moore&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISER Conference Presentation - Web 2.0 &#38; PLNs &#171; Darcy Moore&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ETA Conference: Web 2.0 Workshop &#171; Darcy&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETA Conference: Web 2.0 Workshop &#171; Darcy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, this seems topic of the week. I am not at the point where teachers are going to &#039;find the time&#039; to read or write &#039;educational blogs&#039;. My push this term (and I&#039;ll get 20 minutes if I am lucky) is to look at blogging as an eco-system, contrasting the traditional classroom &#039;learning network&#039; with the edublogger ecosystem. This push to to get them to realise the benefits Konrad explained so well at NECC in developing critical literacies, and how pointless &#039;grades&#039; are in marking week to week tasks, when in fact we should be looking at &#039;where they are&#039; and &#039;where next&#039; in term of them being readers, writers, critics and support to each other.

I&#039;m also going to explain PBL in terms of hte story that Sue Waters told last week, when she asked questions to Twitter - to explain that the sum knowledge of a PLN is greater than any single person (student or teacher).

So, I&#039;m not focusing on them as &#039;bloggers&#039; but want to push them into allowing community blogging (21Classes, Ning) happen as a normal classroom activity, and then encourage them to comment and &#039;knit&#039; together the collective thoughts of the group.

A recent Year 12 Pilot (based on Konrads thinking) proved a massive success, and really added value to the group - overall they exceeded all requirements, and even now, as the deadline has passed, they are still using the group and talking about the topic.

So I&#039;m taking a hybrid approach, using the network to support my arguement and then using the school experience to qualify. To do that I need to draw on Konrad and Sues story - externalise the issue.

I like to attack the flanks with Paladins in Age of Empires, before hitting them with wave after wave of archers.

Let us know how it went - its great to see this on the agenda now.

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, this seems topic of the week. I am not at the point where teachers are going to &#8216;find the time&#8217; to read or write &#8216;educational blogs&#8217;. My push this term (and I&#8217;ll get 20 minutes if I am lucky) is to look at blogging as an eco-system, contrasting the traditional classroom &#8216;learning network&#8217; with the edublogger ecosystem. This push to to get them to realise the benefits Konrad explained so well at NECC in developing critical literacies, and how pointless &#8216;grades&#8217; are in marking week to week tasks, when in fact we should be looking at &#8216;where they are&#8217; and &#8216;where next&#8217; in term of them being readers, writers, critics and support to each other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also going to explain PBL in terms of hte story that Sue Waters told last week, when she asked questions to Twitter &#8211; to explain that the sum knowledge of a PLN is greater than any single person (student or teacher).</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m not focusing on them as &#8216;bloggers&#8217; but want to push them into allowing community blogging (21Classes, Ning) happen as a normal classroom activity, and then encourage them to comment and &#8216;knit&#8217; together the collective thoughts of the group.</p>
<p>A recent Year 12 Pilot (based on Konrads thinking) proved a massive success, and really added value to the group &#8211; overall they exceeded all requirements, and even now, as the deadline has passed, they are still using the group and talking about the topic.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m taking a hybrid approach, using the network to support my arguement and then using the school experience to qualify. To do that I need to draw on Konrad and Sues story &#8211; externalise the issue.</p>
<p>I like to attack the flanks with Paladins in Age of Empires, before hitting them with wave after wave of archers.</p>
<p>Let us know how it went &#8211; its great to see this on the agenda now.</p>
<p>Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Frank's Blog - 21CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank's Blog - 21CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an EFL Teacher Trainer in Mexico. And jumpstarting a PLN here is a much more delicate process because technology is a little further behind as well a collaborative concepts. I started my teachers first with a Ning social/professional network because it had a ready-made network with lots of historical activity to dig into. Then after they were comfortable with that, I moved on to Twitter and RSS, then blogging. Why not blogging first? Because I wanted then to feel around their new PLN and see some examples of blogging first. This coming year, we plan to tackle podcasting, digital stortelling and other such fun stuff. If I can get them into my Lively &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lively.com/dr?rid=-8181667489635738647&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EduBlogger Lounge&lt;/a&gt;, that would be the icing in the cake.

When all is said and done, it is Twitter that is the glue that holds the other pieces together (and maybe just microblogging in general now that I have become a Plurker (karma approaching 60 thank you very much). While I have my own Ning where I started my team, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metamexico.ning.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;META Web 2.0&lt;/a&gt;, I probably would have used Classroom 2.0 as a launch point.

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an EFL Teacher Trainer in Mexico. And jumpstarting a PLN here is a much more delicate process because technology is a little further behind as well a collaborative concepts. I started my teachers first with a Ning social/professional network because it had a ready-made network with lots of historical activity to dig into. Then after they were comfortable with that, I moved on to Twitter and RSS, then blogging. Why not blogging first? Because I wanted then to feel around their new PLN and see some examples of blogging first. This coming year, we plan to tackle podcasting, digital stortelling and other such fun stuff. If I can get them into my Lively <a href="http://www.lively.com/dr?rid=-8181667489635738647" rel="nofollow">EduBlogger Lounge</a>, that would be the icing in the cake.</p>
<p>When all is said and done, it is Twitter that is the glue that holds the other pieces together (and maybe just microblogging in general now that I have become a Plurker (karma approaching 60 thank you very much). While I have my own Ning where I started my team, <a href="http://metamexico.ning.com" rel="nofollow">META Web 2.0</a>, I probably would have used Classroom 2.0 as a launch point.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Oro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Oro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started my PLN by listening to webcasts, specifically &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womenofweb2.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Women of the Web 2.0&lt;/a&gt;. As I had the chat window open, I began to learn from the people who were listening to the webcast and reply back to them. At the same time, I started reading (and then after a while) commenting on blogs. I started using delicious and adding people to my network. I probably joined &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.classroom20.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Classroom 2.0 ning&lt;/a&gt; about that time, too.

Once I was comfortable in those sites, I did join Twitter. It really is my number one location for connecting and learning. I did not feel comfortable with it at first. I didn&#039;t feel comfortable just joining the conversation. Once I had made other contacts with people through blogs, webcasts, and Classroom 2.0 I joined.

There&#039;s not one way to get started. The whole point, to me, is to make others aware of what is available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started my PLN by listening to webcasts, specifically <a href="http://www.womenofweb2.com/" rel="nofollow">Women of the Web 2.0</a>. As I had the chat window open, I began to learn from the people who were listening to the webcast and reply back to them. At the same time, I started reading (and then after a while) commenting on blogs. I started using delicious and adding people to my network. I probably joined <a href="http://www.classroom20.com" rel="nofollow">the Classroom 2.0 ning</a> about that time, too.</p>
<p>Once I was comfortable in those sites, I did join Twitter. It really is my number one location for connecting and learning. I did not feel comfortable with it at first. I didn&#8217;t feel comfortable just joining the conversation. Once I had made other contacts with people through blogs, webcasts, and Classroom 2.0 I joined.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not one way to get started. The whole point, to me, is to make others aware of what is available.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy-A Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy-A Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graham,

I am a first year Bachelor of Education mature aged student in Queensland.  In our first semester we completed a subject called &quot; Learning Networks&quot; which touched on the idea of developing a PLN.  I plan to set up my own blog soon and use del.icio.us to share resources with other students.  I have your blog in my Google Reader.  Keep blogging - I am really enjoying my on-line learning experience.  I think a lot of pre-service teachers are hungry for this type of information but do not know how to access it.</description>
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<p>I am a first year Bachelor of Education mature aged student in Queensland.  In our first semester we completed a subject called &#8221; Learning Networks&#8221; which touched on the idea of developing a PLN.  I plan to set up my own blog soon and use del.icio.us to share resources with other students.  I have your blog in my Google Reader.  Keep blogging &#8211; I am really enjoying my on-line learning experience.  I think a lot of pre-service teachers are hungry for this type of information but do not know how to access it.</p>
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		<title>By: John P</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always a believer that to make any of these tools work you really need to have a purpose and more often that purpose is caused by an itch that needs scratching. Doing anything just because it is good for you usually doesn&#039;t work for kids and works even less effectively for teachers. 

Looking at most of us in the Web 2.0 environment at the moment, much of our learning in our PLN is learning about the tools, how to use, how others are using them in the classroom, refining our own uses, assisting newbies, keeping up with the &quot;Jones&quot;, plus a slightly increasing interest in pedagogy and implications for education and schools. These provide for many of us, lots of reasons for continuing to prod, probe and contribute to the networks. 

I&#039;m not so sure that the next wave of adoptees will have these same motivations, despite how much we think they should. Will they have the sense of cussedness or level of patience, (I know I vacilate between these two extremes), to make these tools work for them? I&#039;m not so sure.

Maybe I would be advising to start initially more local whereby if the network is not happening as it should then there is always a face to face option. A class based blog usually works best for introducing to students so maybe a unit based blog or wiki may best a safer introduction. 

A Ning maybe based around curriculum needs/development is a viable option though it would probably need at least one person with experience in monitoring, moderating and generally stirring the post every now and then. Having a space where you can store and access every dayfrom home and school the work tools has real appeal to some teachers.

Ultimately though the real challenge is to begin to establish PLN that utilise but have a primary focus other than on Web 2.0 tools. I think that it will only be then that the will tools will really prove themself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always a believer that to make any of these tools work you really need to have a purpose and more often that purpose is caused by an itch that needs scratching. Doing anything just because it is good for you usually doesn&#8217;t work for kids and works even less effectively for teachers. </p>
<p>Looking at most of us in the Web 2.0 environment at the moment, much of our learning in our PLN is learning about the tools, how to use, how others are using them in the classroom, refining our own uses, assisting newbies, keeping up with the &#8220;Jones&#8221;, plus a slightly increasing interest in pedagogy and implications for education and schools. These provide for many of us, lots of reasons for continuing to prod, probe and contribute to the networks. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that the next wave of adoptees will have these same motivations, despite how much we think they should. Will they have the sense of cussedness or level of patience, (I know I vacilate between these two extremes), to make these tools work for them? I&#8217;m not so sure.</p>
<p>Maybe I would be advising to start initially more local whereby if the network is not happening as it should then there is always a face to face option. A class based blog usually works best for introducing to students so maybe a unit based blog or wiki may best a safer introduction. </p>
<p>A Ning maybe based around curriculum needs/development is a viable option though it would probably need at least one person with experience in monitoring, moderating and generally stirring the post every now and then. Having a space where you can store and access every dayfrom home and school the work tools has real appeal to some teachers.</p>
<p>Ultimately though the real challenge is to begin to establish PLN that utilise but have a primary focus other than on Web 2.0 tools. I think that it will only be then that the will tools will really prove themself.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve been to see &quot;Kung Fu Panda&quot; today, I would like to thank all of you for your combined &quot;AWESOMENESS&quot;. I&#039;m really interested in your responses as I can present more than my personal point of view to my audience. Based on last year&#039;s response to my &quot;Open Educator&quot; offering, I am not expecting a big turnout so I think I will take a more personal off-the-cuff approach that weaves these responses with some key links from around the edublogosphere/twitterverse/etc. rather than talk at them with a Flickr infested slideshow. That way, they can take some possible strategy away with them (and add that purpose to their newly acquired skills from your workshop, Pam! I was hoping to attend so long as I don&#039;t get in the way.) 
And Chris, I am looking forward to your keynote. My presentation will be a small splinter of your bigger picture perspective - adding to your message not appropriating it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve been to see &#8220;Kung Fu Panda&#8221; today, I would like to thank all of you for your combined &#8220;AWESOMENESS&#8221;. I&#8217;m really interested in your responses as I can present more than my personal point of view to my audience. Based on last year&#8217;s response to my &#8220;Open Educator&#8221; offering, I am not expecting a big turnout so I think I will take a more personal off-the-cuff approach that weaves these responses with some key links from around the edublogosphere/twitterverse/etc. rather than talk at them with a Flickr infested slideshow. That way, they can take some possible strategy away with them (and add that purpose to their newly acquired skills from your workshop, Pam! I was hoping to attend so long as I don&#8217;t get in the way.)<br />
And Chris, I am looking forward to your keynote. My presentation will be a small splinter of your bigger picture perspective &#8211; adding to your message not appropriating it!</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graham

A big omission on my part, and quite rightly mentioned by both Chris &amp; Murcha, is the role played by mailing lists. My awareness of other educators and a myriad of resources was definitely kickstarted by ozteachers well before I became aware of blogs, twitter, &amp; nings. Of course, many of those names associated with ozteachers are the very ones I follow via blogs &amp; twitter :-). I have tried hard to get some of our teachers signed up with del.icio.us but only a few have taken up the challenge. Good luck with your presentation  - I&#039;m doing one for new bloggers but I&#039;m prety nervous with it being my first one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graham</p>
<p>A big omission on my part, and quite rightly mentioned by both Chris &amp; Murcha, is the role played by mailing lists. My awareness of other educators and a myriad of resources was definitely kickstarted by ozteachers well before I became aware of blogs, twitter, &amp; nings. Of course, many of those names associated with ozteachers are the very ones I follow via blogs &amp; twitter <img src='http://gwegner.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I have tried hard to get some of our teachers signed up with del.icio.us but only a few have taken up the challenge. Good luck with your presentation  &#8211; I&#8217;m doing one for new bloggers but I&#8217;m prety nervous with it being my first one.</p>
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		<title>By: Students in my PLNs &#171; On an e-journey with generation Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Students in my PLNs &#171; On an e-journey with generation Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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