Comments on: Networked Literacy – Will Richardson http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2009/03/21/networked-literacy-will-richardson/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:37:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Graham Wegner http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2009/03/21/networked-literacy-will-richardson/comment-page-1/#comment-14127 Graham Wegner Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:48:45 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/?p=686#comment-14127 @Dean Shareski. Perhaps it is a timely reminder that the "edublogophere" for want of a better term is a tiny fraction of the educator population, and people within that population with bureaucratic power are a fraction of that fraction. So, I shouldn't be surprised. But it still makes me frustrated and disappointed. Maybe in 10 or so years, these archived bleatings might indicate that we at least recognised that there were changes in the wind. @Tony You are right in the fact that the DER rollout is going to be an issue that has to be dealt with in some form or another. Maybe an acceleration in high school teacher retirements - although with superannuation stocks taking a dive, many may have to grit their teeth and confront the inevitable. @Dean Groom. Very much looking forward to seeing you at CEGSA. I'm sorry but the hicksville label fits sometimes. How many people would turn up to see Will in Sydney? or Melbourne? More than 40 I'll bet. @Dean Shareski. Perhaps it is a timely reminder that the “edublogophere” for want of a better term is a tiny fraction of the educator population, and people within that population with bureaucratic power are a fraction of that fraction. So, I shouldn’t be surprised. But it still makes me frustrated and disappointed. Maybe in 10 or so years, these archived bleatings might indicate that we at least recognised that there were changes in the wind.

@Tony You are right in the fact that the DER rollout is going to be an issue that has to be dealt with in some form or another. Maybe an acceleration in high school teacher retirements – although with superannuation stocks taking a dive, many may have to grit their teeth and confront the inevitable.

@Dean Groom. Very much looking forward to seeing you at CEGSA. I’m sorry but the hicksville label fits sometimes. How many people would turn up to see Will in Sydney? or Melbourne? More than 40 I’ll bet.

]]> By: Dean groom http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2009/03/21/networked-literacy-will-richardson/comment-page-1/#comment-14126 Dean groom Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:53:57 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/?p=686#comment-14126 I think what is dissapointing is that edu departments do almost nothing to support teachers in curricula renewal and take will is again deliveing the message to Australia, that oh systems don't understand or are selective in thier ignorance. Your blog was the first teacher one I read. So stop with the Hicksville stuff. See you at cegsa. Let's hope local departments start bringing 'us' into schools, as we can't endlessly talk about it, but start to answer the questions in the audience. Cheers. Dean. I think what is dissapointing is that edu departments do almost nothing to support teachers in curricula renewal and take will is again deliveing the message to Australia, that oh systems don’t understand or are selective in thier ignorance. Your blog was the first teacher one I read. So stop with the Hicksville stuff. See you at cegsa. Let’s hope local departments start bringing ‘us’ into schools, as we can’t endlessly talk about it, but start to answer the questions in the audience. Cheers. Dean.

]]> By: Mr S http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2009/03/21/networked-literacy-will-richardson/comment-page-1/#comment-14123 Mr S Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:02:10 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/?p=686#comment-14123 Graham "How do we shift massive numbers of teachers into a new way of thinking with the new technology?" Yep, thinking of an answer for that too. Trying the "personal, use it in your own life" line at present, staff seem Ok with that, not engrossed or enthusiastic, just Ok, luke warm style. The powerful networks of real people is also foreign to most still to engage, still a stigma about the quality of the network as opposed to a "real" book or "real" F2F meeting. Thats why I always brag about these great online helpers I've discovered. Lets face it, little of the intuitive web2.0 stuff is ground breaking or difficult to acquire, even I have found some basics over 12 months. It is the pedagogy and attitude that are the far more serious stumbling blocks. The mantra "I haven't, I won't, I can't" seems embedded. Makes me wonder if any independent PD improvement does get completed, tech focused or not. Maybe DET NSW 1:1 could just be the tech tipping point that forces some reluctant hands. If 30 kids show up carrying their weapons of "mass connection" it'll either end in tears or salutes, the past fence sitting/avoidance will be diminished as an option. I can hear the tech frightened line already however, "turn that off, we are hear to learn, not play computers" At least now the tech will be in every Year 9 room and it will either confront or comfort. Black and white polarising can result in attitudinal change (or even stronger resistance) It may well be the next political decision (ie support with even more funds, therefore more tech in all schools) that will be the real indicator of success of not. I am trusting any flavoured polly will continue to support edtech investment, for they now see the emergence of world players via tech ubiquity as economic threats (read political determinates to electoral victory) Don't really care about the motive for current edrev largesse, I just want schools to be better so our kids aren't the factory floor sweepers post 2020. I wont be a live blogger either, maybe back channel Graham
“How do we shift massive numbers of teachers into a new way of thinking with the new technology?”
Yep, thinking of an answer for that too. Trying the “personal, use it in your own life” line at present, staff seem Ok with that, not engrossed or enthusiastic, just Ok, luke warm style.

The powerful networks of real people is also foreign to most still to engage, still a stigma about the quality of the network as opposed to a “real” book or “real” F2F meeting. Thats why I always brag about these great online helpers I’ve discovered.

Lets face it, little of the intuitive web2.0 stuff is ground breaking or difficult to acquire, even I have found some basics over 12 months. It is the pedagogy and attitude that are the far more serious stumbling blocks. The mantra “I haven’t, I won’t, I can’t” seems embedded. Makes me wonder if any independent PD improvement does get completed, tech focused or not.

Maybe DET NSW 1:1 could just be the tech tipping point that forces some reluctant hands. If 30 kids show up carrying their weapons of “mass connection” it’ll either end in tears or salutes, the past fence sitting/avoidance will be diminished as an option.

I can hear the tech frightened line already however, “turn that off, we are hear to learn, not play computers”

At least now the tech will be in every Year 9 room and it will either confront or comfort. Black and white polarising can result in attitudinal change (or even stronger resistance)

It may well be the next political decision (ie support with even more funds, therefore more tech in all schools) that will be the real indicator of success of not.

I am trusting any flavoured polly will continue to support edtech investment, for they now see the emergence of world players via tech ubiquity as economic threats (read political determinates to electoral victory)

Don’t really care about the motive for current edrev largesse, I just want schools to be better so our kids aren’t the factory floor sweepers post 2020.

I wont be a live blogger either, maybe back channel

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2009/03/21/networked-literacy-will-richardson/comment-page-1/#comment-14122 Dean Shareski Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:58:34 +0000 http://gwegner.edublogs.org/?p=686#comment-14122 Graham, <blockquote>I’m still disappointed about the very small (but loyal) crowd that attended the seminar - sometimes Adelaide does live up to its “hicksville” image. Where were our school leaders and department decision makers who need to hear about this stuff?</blockquote> We are about to have our own provincial conference Monday and Tuesday, http://www.spdu.ca/iTsummit.html and fear I might be able to use the above quote as well. Graham,

I’m still disappointed about the very small (but loyal) crowd that attended the seminar – sometimes Adelaide does live up to its “hicksville” image. Where were our school leaders and department decision makers who need to hear about this stuff?

We are about to have our own provincial conference Monday and Tuesday,
http://www.spdu.ca/iTsummit.html
and fear I might be able to use the above quote as well.

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